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Tyla · Jun 01, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

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Originally Posted by chesterocks7

i said there arent many, not none at all.

This is false.

Ranges are a midline class built to support the party, with interrupts, traps (To a lesser extent), and conditions.

Distracting Shot should be on any bow Ranger's bar. And in PvE, Broad Head Arrow is simply put, the king of PvE elite skills.

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you shouldnt wait to use troll until you get spiked, its useful to cast even if youre not taking much dmg, if you know the enemy is spiking.

If the enemy is spiking health regeneration won't help.

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the only build i said it is really useful for on a ranger is a running build, in which case there are plenty of attribute points to spare.

If you want regeneration, use something else. Even Healing Breeze is better for a regeneration job in terms of running.

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because the only build i mentioned that you would use it for group purposes was the bonder build, in which all the bonding skills only affect one person.

As a bonder you would want to throw up more decent bonds such as Life Bond and Life Barrier, and not weak stuff like Mending.

Bonders are actually quite weak when it comes to enchant removal anyway, and I would rather take a proper Monk over it.

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no, any warrior that uses radiant insignias is an idiot. my point was that with 1 energy regen, having any skill that costs 10 energy is not a good idea. unless you are using a zealous weapon which also is kinda ridiculous for a warrior.

Radiant Insignias, yes they are bad, but on a Warrior using something, say [[shock], it's more beneficial to run Radiants than run survival runes, because more Shock is good.

And Zealous weapons on a Warrior isn't rediculous. Depending on the bar you run, your bar would be energy intensive.

Orange Milk · Jun 02, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18

I've totally lost track of the point of this thread.

ANYWAY......

@ chesterocks7 - Taking the time to use proper grammar makes your post seem well thought out, researched and educated as opposed to a ranting display of "I'm right, your wrong" unvalidated arguments. Even IF you make a valid point, no one will care because at first glance witht he naked eye your post looks like trash and it will be perceived as such.

Don't take that advice the wrong way, that's no "shot" at you or anything, I'm just trying to help.

Slightly on topic(maybe?) There are times I run Superior Runes (like any NM PvE place), But very rarly do I buff up an attribute to 16 when doing so. At that point there isn't too much to gain in just one attribute line, those 20 some odd points are better used elsewhere in most cases.

Teutonic Paladin · Jun 02, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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no, any warrior that uses radiant insignias is an idiot. my point was that with 1 energy regen, having any skill that costs 10 energy is not a good idea. unless you are using a zealous weapon which also is kinda ridiculous for a warrior.

So I heard Shock Axe is a pretty good build.

Orange Milk · Jun 03, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34

^^

If you have to use Radiant Insignias while running Shock Axe, your not good at running Shock Axe

chesterocks7 · Jun 04, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

@ chesterocks7 - Taking the time to use proper grammar makes your post seem well thought out, researched and educated as opposed to a ranting display of "I'm right, your wrong" unvalidated arguments. Even IF you make a valid point, no one will care because at first glance witht he naked eye your post looks like trash and it will be perceived as such.

i never knew that using bad grammar makes your argument null and void. that's a pretty high and mighty view if you instantly disregard what someone says because they dont use capitals. anyways, i dont give a shit about looking "well thought out, researched and educated" because we are simply discussing our opinions on strategies in a video game. ive said a hundred times this is all a matter of opinion so i dont care if you disregard my posts as trash. im not trying to convince anyone of anything, im simply discussing my view on things.

oh, by the way:

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

glance witht he naked eye

i guess what you said doesnt matter anyways.

Damian979 · Jun 04, 2008, 02:21 PM // 14:21

LOL more 3rd reich grammar raids, I love it.

Any way kd bunny thumping is good for those pesky cloning torment demons.

Conjure flame+ignite arrows makes a pretty good spike.

MasterSasori · Jun 06, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

The [glass arrows] and [conjure lightning] spike works fairly well. Use with [triple shot] and [favorable winds] and you have a decent spike.

Vazze · Jun 06, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Melek

If you want big single target damage you can't beat the re-buffed [penetrating attack]/[sundering attack]. The bar i have been using to great effect almost everywhere is:
[penetrating attack][sundering attack][prepared shot][savage shot][flail][read the wind][ebon vanguard assassin support][sunspear rebirth signet] (use 14 expertise and as much marksmanship as you like, and a zealous flatbow)

I do not play my ranger too often but when I do, I use a very similar bar as melek .

Darkpower Alchemist · Jun 15, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

How can you speak of damage on a ranger without mentioning [skill]Sloth Hunter's Shot[/skill] and [skill]Keen Arrow[/skill]? If you have neither EoTN or NF, then by all means, dismiss them from your mind. In that case, your elite is your greatest friend.

The others are ok in comparison, but not like these two bad boys. As for radiant, get with the program. Rangers owned druids outfits for like...forever! Trappers need more energy. Warriors don't need a full radiant suit, yet radiants on the chest and legs make for solid energy in a small pool. Other classes depend on what you like to play with. All things have a reason and a purpose.

Don't dismiss something because you feel that "you" wouldn't use it. That's just being narrow sighted, and thus, possibly narrow minded.

As for expertise and the need for a 16 in the attribute...at one time, trapping needed 16 expertise by popular opinion, and still is useful, yet 14 is the breaking point for most attributes, so the answer would be doable, bu not neccessary.

Gabriel Kimura · Jun 19, 2008, 06:26 AM // 06:26

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Originally Posted by MasterSasori

The [glass arrows] and [conjure lightning] spike works fairly well. Use with [triple shot] and [favorable winds] and you have a decent spike.

I use something similar, for PvP I run:

Conjure Lightning
Glass Arrows
Dual Shot
Point Blank Shot
Zojun's Shot
Needling Shot
Rez

By the time dual, PBS and zojun's hit, 80% of enemies are below 50% and I haven't many enemies that can withstand a round of needling shot.

What kinds of runes are good with this build? What about insignias? I'm a bit bad with that stuff.

Nathan

JR · Jun 19, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

^^

If you have to use Radiant Insignias while running Shock Axe, your not good at running Shock Axe

A lot of very good Warriors use Radiant insignias for running Shock.

The whole 'you shouldn't be spamming Shock' arguement is silly, sometimes (particularly on splits) it will be beneficial.